We will again, very soon, see multitudes being converted and being empowered with the Holy Spirit.[1]

The date of this prophecy is 1991 or 1992. It may have been written in 1991 but it was published in 1992. Its original location on the internet had a URL with “92” in it. Its link text was “Prophetic Bulletin – 1992 The Post-Charismatic Era by Paul Cain.”[2] But more recently the attribution of this prophecy changed to Rick Joyner and the new date is June 1, 1991.[3] Joyner publishes Prophetic Bulletin and most articles in it were written by him in the 1990s; some were guest writers. (After the Post-Charismatic Era article, Cain and Joyner co-authored a controversial article on Bill Clinton: “The Clinton Administration: Its Meaning and Our Future.”)

It is believed the article title and text remains the same. An old article that referenced that “Charismatic” article published by MorningStar attributes it to Cain, and quotes some of its text, but says it appeared in a Sept. 1993 edition of “The Morning Star.”[4] It is not clear how many publications it appeared in. (Popular prophecies typically get distributed and reprinted in different publications.)

The full context of the paragraph containing the above brief prophecy excerpt was:

So some of what appeared to be foolishness in the Charismatic Renewal really was the wisdom of God, but some of it really was human folly. We must learn to discern the difference and remove that which is folly, and an unnecessary stumbling block to sincere seekers. We must honestly evaluate the hard lessons that were learned in the last movement so that we do not make the same mistakes again. The Lord is going to give us another opportunity to do it right. We will again, very soon, see multitudes being converted and being empowered with the Holy Spirit. We must realize the limits of our own wisdom so that we do not automatically disregard that which we do not understand, even when we consider it to be foolishness, but let us quickly discern and repent of that which is our own human folly.[5]

Cain goes on to reiterate the basics of his prophecy:

We are nearing a Second Harvest that is about to sweep some of the most dry and barren institutional churches and empower them with the Spirit of God.[6]

This leaves little to no doubt what Cain was saying. “Multitudes” getting saved or a “Second Harvest” would be a revival. The plain meaning of “very soon, “nearing” or “about” would be anything from a few weeks to a few years.

This prophecy failed. It was not fulfilled in 1991, 1992, or 1993, or since then. This was yet another failed Cain revival prophecy. He failed in 1990, 1992, and 1996 when he prophesied a healing revival for that year. Rick Joyner also published or promoted that failure. So much for being a “high-level prophet.” Cain had a bad habit of prophesying his incorrect pet eschatology. Bob Jones did the same thing as did/does Mike Bickle.

In the above longer excerpt you see a red flag for prophecy where opinion is mixed with prophecy. It is mostly an editorial opinion. First there is opinion, then the prophecy, followed by more opinion. Since his eschatology was his opinion you could actually argue the whole thing was his opinion: he was speculating there would be another Pentecost or another revival.

He makes big sweeping generalizations with interpretation about church history. It is heavy on opinions and light on facts.

The more opinionated people are, the worse they are at prophesying. Paul Cain was extremely opinionated about revival and terrible at prophesying it. (Click the Paul Cain tag link below for more examples.)

End notes
  1. Rick Joyner, “The Post-Charismatic Era,” June 1, 1991. https://publications.morningstarministries.org/post-charismatic-era [May 3, 2020].
  2. https://web.archive.org/web/19981203142336/http://eaglestar.org/MSPB.htm [May 3, 2020].
  3. Joyner.
  4. “Somebody Moved The Goalposts: A ‘Mainstream’ Report for Spring 1993,” n.d.  www.banner.org.uk/ms/ms193.html [May 3, 2020].
  5. Joyner.
  6. Ibid.

In the 1980s and/or 1990s Rick Joyner was associated with a controversial Kansas City church movement tied to Mike Bickle, Bob Jones and Paul Cain. He and others were making all kinds of prophecies some of which were related to their new eschatology and false teachings on church government. His prophecy collapsed after the church collapsed.

The Kansas City Metro Vineyard published a newsletter in the early 90s which promoted their church as a model of the newly emerging church. This church had been closely associated with the signs and wonders movement of John Wimber and officially was absorbed into the Vineyard until Wimber discovered how crooked it was. KC “Prophet” Rick Joyner prophesied:

Single presbyteries will form over cities and localities. These will be made up of pastors and leaders from all backgrounds. Their unity and harmony in purpose, as well as that of the various congregations, will become a marvel to the world. . . .

Some leaders will actually disband their organizations as they realize they are no longer relevant to what God is doing. Others will leave them behind to disband by themselves. Ultimately, all circles of ministry or influence with individual identities will dissolve into a single identity of simply being Christian for all who become part of this harvest.[1]

Update: original source

Single presbytery claim source

This was a ridiculous prophecy and unsurprisingly it failed. The disturbing thing, however, is it was believed by the Kansas City Prophets and the people who followed them. They actually tried to shut down churches in Kansas City and some closed. They would prophesy that God was telling pastors to close their churches and join their church.

One pastor, Ernie Gruen, was so outraged he took a public stand against them, preaching against their corruption. His activism led to the KCP church getting shut down.

The presbytery prophecy failed for the model church in their ‘model city,’ and it has never been accepted as sound doctrine, either. Until it gains credibility (don’t hold your breath), it is unlikely this prophecy will ever be fulfilled. It is a very tough sell. Joyner himself doesn’t spend a lot of time promoting it, so the conclusion is he now agrees he made a false prophecy.


[1] KC newsletter, p. 3, cited by Sarah Leslie, “Research Notes: Analyzing The ‘Cell Church’ Model,” Christian Conscience, 1999. http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/cellcurch.html [Apr. 26, 2020].

In February 2016, Rick Joyner spoke from Heritage International Headquarters in Fort Mill, South Carolina, on his TV show, “Prophetic Perspectives on Current Events with Rick Joyner.”

Joyner said Bob Jones was “a prophetic friend of ours who lived here for over 20 years.” Jones had already passed away, so he shared his prophecy as best he remembered it:

When our Carolina Panthers win the Super Bowl . . . this is a time when . . . major revival awakening moves of God are going to break out in America.

“When they went to the Super Bowl once over ten years ago,” said Joyner, “we thought: This is it where . . . revival is [going to] break out in America.”

“Well, they didn’t win.”

On February 1, 2004, the Carolina Panthers, despite a great regular season, and scoring 19 points in the 4th quarter in the 38th Super Bowl, lost to the New England Patriots, 32–29.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6vioW7SZc

“Listen,” said Joyner, “I’m doing this program before the [50th] Super Bowl. They haven’t won it yet, but if they do, to me it is a very definite marker of something remarkable breaking out.

“Now Bob saw it breaking out in Charlotte,” he explained, “but it’s about to happen here. . . we said, ‘Okay, now, if the Panthers win this year, we know it’s all hands on deck, and we are going to see the outbreak of, I believe, the third Great Awakening in America.’

“I think we’re going to see not just one but many revivals. . . . I think you’re going to see something major breaking out in Kansas City and there’s also a major outbreak on the west coast that is coming . . . .

“I mean all these supporting tents are lining up and I think something spectacular is going to happen there. You’re going to see an outbreak in Charlotte. You’re going to see an outbreak in Kansas City and I believe [in] many other places if the Panthers win the Superbowl. . . . Start getting prepared for revival.”1

Five days later, on February 7, 2016, at Super Bowl 50, the Denver Broncos defeated the Carolina Panthers, 24–10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR0qOk_pcyg

Joyner was heavily criticized on YouTube. Viewers believed he had prophesied the Panthers were going to win and they saw it as an epic fail. They missed the little two-letter word “if,” but it is still unclear why Joyner didn’t wait until after the game to see if the Panthers won.

End notes
  1. Rick Joyner on Revival and Panthers’ Super Bowl Win,” MorningStar Ministries, YouTube, Feb. 2, 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx8hhaQ3ZzM [Apr. 29, 2020].

In 1996, about 50 years after the healing revival that started in the 1940s began, Paul Cain prophesied another one. The record of his word was made by a colleague, Rick Joyner, and published on his website:

PROPHECY FROM PAUL CAIN: A healing revival will begin this year.

INTERPRETATION: This is a word that we have heard from a number of different prophetic ministries. Revival implies bringing something back to life. The last true healing revival began in 1948 and had a sweeping world wide impact. Even though the Lord seldom moves in exactly the same way twice, we can expect healing to become a much greater emphasis in the times ahead.[1]

The “interpretation” was by Joyner. It is included because he claimed it was corroborated. The prophecy was a complete failure. There was no healing revival in 1996 and there has been no healing revival since then. No record was found of Paul Cain apologizing or explaining why he failed, nor Joyner doing so on Cain’s behalf.

The prophecy had more weight than many prophecies because it came from Cain, supposedly a prophet, who was called “a high-level prophet” (prophesying with a high degree of accuracy), and because he had himself previously been part of a healing revival.

This wasn’t Cain’s first revival prophecy or first false revival prophecy. It is not as well known as his UK revival prophecy around 1990. That also failed to happen the year he prophesied it would and hasn’t happened since, either.

Paul Cain’s history is not fully discussed often and to this day in some circles he is still widely considered to have been infallible. He has another outstanding revival prophecy which had no date on it that people still believe is going to be fulfilled.

It becomes obvious after studying Cain’s life that he was burdened to see revival. This in part undoubtedly was because he had experienced it at the beginning of his life as a minister, but then had nothing for decades. He had probably been not only hoping for revival but also praying for it for decades. Burdens can lead to prophesying from natural frustration or human hope instead of divine inspiration. This could explain Cain giving multiple revival prophecies which failed and lower the probability that any that are left over which lacked specific timing definition were actually inspired.

Cain’s famous unfulfilled stadium revival prophecy would be more credible if he hadn’t already made false revival prophecies for the England Revival of 1990 that never happened and the Healing Revival of 1996 that failed to materialize.

End notes
  1. Rick Joyner, “MorningStar Prophetic Bulletin #17 ,” 1996.  https://old.morningstarministries.org/resources/prophetic-bulletins/1996/strategic-dreams-visions [Apr. 26, 2020].