The story begins in December 1989 at the height of the Kansas City prophetic movement before any significant controversy. Paul Cain and others used to travel around the United States. In this case Cain spoke at a meeting in San Antonio, Texas. J. Lee Grady, a journalist for eight years, was in the audience.

Unfortunately this piece never got published in Charisma magazine where it could have created shockwaves. Grady was an editor there for many years but did not start until 1992. He wrote about it in his book The Holy Spirit Is Not for Sale: Rekindling the Power of God in an Age of Compromise (2010) and then republished it in a later book What Happened to the Fire? Rekindling the Blaze of Charismatic Renewal (2019).

After his sermon Cain delivered prophecies to about ten individuals or couples. Each of the messages was laced with bits of personal data—first names, cities, street numbers.

To one pastor and his wife, personal friends of mine, he mentioned the number 4001 (their church office was located on 4001 Newberry Road) and predicted that they would experience great revival in their Florida city.

At another point Cain asked if “Mark and Debbie” from Washington, D.C., were in the audience. This couple had pastored a church in Washington for several years with a ministry office located at 139 C Street, near the U.S. Capitol. “There’s something about 139 C,” Cain said, and he proceeded to predict that spiritual revival would someday impact Capitol Hill.[1]

Patterns detected

… it disturbed me that almost everyone who received these prophetic directives was part of the full-time staff of the ministry sponsoring the conference.

It also seemed puzzling that all the information Cain ostensibly received from God was printed in a staff address directory that I knew was easily available to conference speakers.[2]

Investigation launched

Later Grady decided to put his journalism skills to work.

The church on 4001 Newberry Road . . .  closed and most of the members had left the city, including the pastor and his wife.

“Mark and Debbie” had resigned their pastoral positions in Washington, D.C. The 139 C Street office was rented out to another group and the church had moved to the suburbs.

Another young man—who had been told by Cain that he would orchestrate a fruitful ministry in southern California—told me he had moved to Texas and had no desire ever to live in California again.[3]

Cain confronted

His investigation concluded, Grady now thought he had enough information to confront the “prophet.”

A year after the San Antonio meeting, I interviewed Paul Cain. He insisted during our conversation that no one has ever proved that he obtains information from any source other than God.

Two years later I asked him to explain why these prophecies did not come true. I also asked him if he had seen any information about those people’s addresses before he prophesied over them. He would not answer my questions directly, but through a friend denied any wrongdoing.

. . .

most of the prophecies he gave in that meeting in 1989 were inaccurate.[4]

The allegation of fake supernatural revelations was corroborated in 2011 (click screen capture to enlarge):




You cannot assume, based on reputation, hype or drama, “secrets” were revealed by God.

Side note: could Cain ever get through one meeting without a false revival prophecy?

End notes
  1. J. Lee Grady, What Happened to the Fire?, 1994, pp. 115-116.
  2. Ibid.
  3. Ibid.
  4. Ibid.
  5. Craig, “In Exonerating Paul Cain, Is the ‘Aberrant Practices’ Document Invalidated?” CrossWise blog, Oct. 17, 2011. [May 4, 2020].

We will again, very soon, see multitudes being converted and being empowered with the Holy Spirit.[1]

The date of this prophecy is 1991 or 1992. It may have been written in 1991 but it was published in 1992. Its original location on the internet had a URL with “92” in it. Its link text was “Prophetic Bulletin – 1992 The Post-Charismatic Era by Paul Cain.”[2] But more recently the attribution of this prophecy changed to Rick Joyner and the new date is June 1, 1991.[3] Joyner publishes Prophetic Bulletin and most articles in it were written by him in the 1990s; some were guest writers. (After the Post-Charismatic Era article, Cain and Joyner co-authored a controversial article on Bill Clinton: “The Clinton Administration: Its Meaning and Our Future.”)

It is believed the article title and text remains the same. An old article that referenced that “Charismatic” article published by MorningStar attributes it to Cain, and quotes some of its text, but says it appeared in a Sept. 1993 edition of “The Morning Star.”[4] It is not clear how many publications it appeared in. (Popular prophecies typically get distributed and reprinted in different publications.)

The full context of the paragraph containing the above brief prophecy excerpt was:

So some of what appeared to be foolishness in the Charismatic Renewal really was the wisdom of God, but some of it really was human folly. We must learn to discern the difference and remove that which is folly, and an unnecessary stumbling block to sincere seekers. We must honestly evaluate the hard lessons that were learned in the last movement so that we do not make the same mistakes again. The Lord is going to give us another opportunity to do it right. We will again, very soon, see multitudes being converted and being empowered with the Holy Spirit. We must realize the limits of our own wisdom so that we do not automatically disregard that which we do not understand, even when we consider it to be foolishness, but let us quickly discern and repent of that which is our own human folly.[5]

Cain goes on to reiterate the basics of his prophecy:

We are nearing a Second Harvest that is about to sweep some of the most dry and barren institutional churches and empower them with the Spirit of God.[6]

This leaves little to no doubt what Cain was saying. “Multitudes” getting saved or a “Second Harvest” would be a revival. The plain meaning of “very soon, “nearing” or “about” would be anything from a few weeks to a few years.

This prophecy failed. It was not fulfilled in 1991, 1992, or 1993, or since then. This was yet another failed Cain revival prophecy. He failed in 1990, 1992, and 1996 when he prophesied a healing revival for that year. Rick Joyner also published or promoted that failure. So much for being a “high-level prophet.” Cain had a bad habit of prophesying his incorrect pet eschatology. Bob Jones did the same thing as did/does Mike Bickle.

In the above longer excerpt you see a red flag for prophecy where opinion is mixed with prophecy. It is mostly an editorial opinion. First there is opinion, then the prophecy, followed by more opinion. Since his eschatology was his opinion you could actually argue the whole thing was his opinion: he was speculating there would be another Pentecost or another revival.

He makes big sweeping generalizations with interpretation about church history. It is heavy on opinions and light on facts.

The more opinionated people are, the worse they are at prophesying. Paul Cain was extremely opinionated about revival and terrible at prophesying it. (Click the Paul Cain tag link below for more examples.)

End notes
  1. Rick Joyner, “The Post-Charismatic Era,” June 1, 1991. [May 3, 2020].
  2. [May 3, 2020].
  3. Joyner.
  4. “Somebody Moved The Goalposts: A ‘Mainstream’ Report for Spring 1993,” n.d. [May 3, 2020].
  5. Joyner.
  6. Ibid.

Prophecy: Stadiums full of people in a revival

Prophet: Paul Cain

The attribution for who made this prophecy is undisputed as is its basic idea. Paul Cain said he had recurring visions of the stadiums. One rumor is he saw the vision “over one hundred times.” This number may have been estimated or inflated. His own website summarized the visions as “ongoing, recurring.”

Cain’s own detailed account was:


In February 1989, at the Anaheim Vineyard during a conference, I prophesied a time when athletic stadiums and arenas would be filled with God’s people preaching the gospel and healing the sick in extraordinary fashion.

In my vision I saw ambulances bringing in the worst medical cases, the local hospitals being emptied to deliver their patients to these events, and the dead (dead people!) being raised by an army of nameless and faceless Christians releasing a wave of miraculous healings and conversions.

GodTV, in its eulogy after he passed away in 2019, said: “Paul lived to see the start of the mass stadium revivals he prophesied.” This is a very liberal interpretation of history. They said it happened at Azusa Now when 60,000 people gathered on April 9, 2016 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. But these were Christians. How many were healed? Who was raised from the dead? Were there ambulances?

It is a very optimistic prophecy. It is basically a best-case scenario prophecy. This type is always suspect. Cain made his already-fantastic prophecy even more fantastic:

This vision encompassed multiple venues over an extended period and spoke of God’s glory being released in an unprecedented manner and on a scale that had not been witnessed before….

In my vision, the international media were reporting the amazing events as they took place. This was the news of the day: every channel, every station, and every nation.

This was not an isolated Christian event, the kind that is well known and publicized in the Christian community, yet even the immediate neighbors of the event have no clue what is happening inside; rather, this was a series of events that would affect the world and the communities around the stadiums and arenas.

A History of Revival Prophecies

It must be noted that Paul Cain gave another revival prophecy around the same time he made the 1989 stadiums prophecy. In either 1989 and/or 1990 he prophesied revival was about to start in England. It never happened, much to John Wimber’s regret.

About thirty years later it still had not happened. Not too long before he died, Cain returned to the UK, and people thought it might happen then, including Cain. It did not.

Was the stadiums revival word true while the UK revival one was false? Or were they both false?

A closer look at Cain’s revival prophecy record shows he also prophesied a healing revival for 1996. It also never happened.


It seems like a lot of people believe the Cain stadiums prophecy because they want to believe it. It would be a dream come true. There is a bias to trust it by those who want to see it happen. Peter Vandever, the blogger at Azusa Report who is steeped in Kansas City dreams, confidently declares Stadium Christianity is my Eschatology.


The disclaimer here as always is we don’t know if Cain had the vision as he claimed and/or if he had it several times. He has been accused of lying by leaders so it’s possible. Assuming for the sake of discussion his claimed spiritual experiences did happen, the essential component of the prophecy in terms of credibility is they happened more than once.

To some people seeing a vision once is enough to believe it. To others it needs to be more than once to be credible. But the idea that it happened many times or even 100 times should push it past the realm of any doubt whatsoever.

The problem with this belief is that re-occurrence of any spiritual experience, whether it is a vision or anything else, in and of itself is not infallible proof something is from God according to the Bible.

One person could have one vision once and it be from God. Another person could have one vision 1,000 times and it not be from God. Frequency is just not the standard. You could fairly argue that having the same vision more than once makes it more likely it is from God than having it only once, but it’s not foolproof.


The stadiums prophecy is fairly innocuous. It makes little difference to most people whether they believe it or not. It is unlikely to affect any decision-making. It is mostly a cheer-leading prophecy to wind up a crowd and get people excited.


It is a very strong word in some ways because it forecasts extreme power, but at the same time it is also very weak, because it says nothing about personal cost or special method. It is not clear if it is just going to happen as a sovereign move of God, or God’s people actually need to do something special to get something special. If Cain really believed it was from God why didn’t he find out and tell us?


In 1996, about 50 years after the healing revival that started in the 1940s began, Paul Cain prophesied another one. The record of his word was made by a colleague, Rick Joyner, and published on his website:

PROPHECY FROM PAUL CAIN: A healing revival will begin this year.

INTERPRETATION: This is a word that we have heard from a number of different prophetic ministries. Revival implies bringing something back to life. The last true healing revival began in 1948 and had a sweeping world wide impact. Even though the Lord seldom moves in exactly the same way twice, we can expect healing to become a much greater emphasis in the times ahead.[1]

The “interpretation” was by Joyner. It is included because he claimed it was corroborated. The prophecy was a complete failure. There was no healing revival in 1996 and there has been no healing revival since then. No record was found of Paul Cain apologizing or explaining why he failed, nor Joyner doing so on Cain’s behalf.

The prophecy had more weight than many prophecies because it came from Cain, supposedly a prophet, who was called “a high-level prophet” (prophesying with a high degree of accuracy), and because he had himself previously been part of a healing revival.

This wasn’t Cain’s first revival prophecy or first false revival prophecy. It is not as well known as his UK revival prophecy around 1990. That also failed to happen the year he prophesied it would and hasn’t happened since, either.

Paul Cain’s history is not fully discussed often and to this day in some circles he is still widely considered to have been infallible. He has another outstanding revival prophecy which had no date on it that people still believe is going to be fulfilled.

It becomes obvious after studying Cain’s life that he was burdened to see revival. This in part undoubtedly was because he had experienced it at the beginning of his life as a minister, but then had nothing for decades. He had probably been not only hoping for revival but also praying for it for decades. Burdens can lead to prophesying from natural frustration or human hope instead of divine inspiration. This could explain Cain giving multiple revival prophecies which failed and lower the probability that any that are left over which lacked specific timing definition were actually inspired.

Cain’s famous unfulfilled stadium revival prophecy would be more credible if he hadn’t already made false revival prophecies for the England Revival of 1990 that never happened and the Healing Revival of 1996 that failed to materialize.

End notes
  1. Rick Joyner, “MorningStar Prophetic Bulletin #17 ,” 1996. [Apr. 26, 2020].