The story begins in December 1989 at the height of the Kansas City prophetic movement before any significant controversy. Paul Cain and others used to travel around the United States. In this case Cain spoke at a meeting in San Antonio, Texas. J. Lee Grady, a journalist for eight years, was in the audience.

Unfortunately this piece never got published in Charisma magazine where it could have created shockwaves. Grady was an editor there for many years but did not start until 1992. He wrote about it in his book The Holy Spirit Is Not for Sale: Rekindling the Power of God in an Age of Compromise (2010) and then republished it in a later book What Happened to the Fire? Rekindling the Blaze of Charismatic Renewal (2019).

After his sermon Cain delivered prophecies to about ten individuals or couples. Each of the messages was laced with bits of personal data—first names, cities, street numbers.

To one pastor and his wife, personal friends of mine, he mentioned the number 4001 (their church office was located on 4001 Newberry Road) and predicted that they would experience great revival in their Florida city.

At another point Cain asked if “Mark and Debbie” from Washington, D.C., were in the audience. This couple had pastored a church in Washington for several years with a ministry office located at 139 C Street, near the U.S. Capitol. “There’s something about 139 C,” Cain said, and he proceeded to predict that spiritual revival would someday impact Capitol Hill.[1]

Patterns detected

… it disturbed me that almost everyone who received these prophetic directives was part of the full-time staff of the ministry sponsoring the conference.

It also seemed puzzling that all the information Cain ostensibly received from God was printed in a staff address directory that I knew was easily available to conference speakers.[2]

Investigation launched

Later Grady decided to put his journalism skills to work.

The church on 4001 Newberry Road . . .  closed and most of the members had left the city, including the pastor and his wife.

“Mark and Debbie” had resigned their pastoral positions in Washington, D.C. The 139 C Street office was rented out to another group and the church had moved to the suburbs.

Another young man—who had been told by Cain that he would orchestrate a fruitful ministry in southern California—told me he had moved to Texas and had no desire ever to live in California again.[3]

Cain confronted

His investigation concluded, Grady now thought he had enough information to confront the “prophet.”

A year after the San Antonio meeting, I interviewed Paul Cain. He insisted during our conversation that no one has ever proved that he obtains information from any source other than God.

Two years later I asked him to explain why these prophecies did not come true. I also asked him if he had seen any information about those people’s addresses before he prophesied over them. He would not answer my questions directly, but through a friend denied any wrongdoing.

. . .

most of the prophecies he gave in that meeting in 1989 were inaccurate.[4]

The allegation of fake supernatural revelations was corroborated in 2011 (click screen capture to enlarge):




You cannot assume, based on reputation, hype or drama, “secrets” were revealed by God.

Side note: could Cain ever get through one meeting without a false revival prophecy?

End notes
  1. J. Lee Grady, What Happened to the Fire?, 1994, pp. 115-116.
  2. Ibid.
  3. Ibid.
  4. Ibid.
  5. Craig, “In Exonerating Paul Cain, Is the ‘Aberrant Practices’ Document Invalidated?” CrossWise blog, Oct. 17, 2011. [May 4, 2020].

We will again, very soon, see multitudes being converted and being empowered with the Holy Spirit.[1]

The date of this prophecy is 1991 or 1992. It may have been written in 1991 but it was published in 1992. Its original location on the internet had a URL with “92” in it. Its link text was “Prophetic Bulletin – 1992 The Post-Charismatic Era by Paul Cain.”[2] But more recently the attribution of this prophecy changed to Rick Joyner and the new date is June 1, 1991.[3] Joyner publishes Prophetic Bulletin and most articles in it were written by him in the 1990s; some were guest writers. (After the Post-Charismatic Era article, Cain and Joyner co-authored a controversial article on Bill Clinton: “The Clinton Administration: Its Meaning and Our Future.”)

It is believed the article title and text remains the same. An old article that referenced that “Charismatic” article published by MorningStar attributes it to Cain, and quotes some of its text, but says it appeared in a Sept. 1993 edition of “The Morning Star.”[4] It is not clear how many publications it appeared in. (Popular prophecies typically get distributed and reprinted in different publications.)

The full context of the paragraph containing the above brief prophecy excerpt was:

So some of what appeared to be foolishness in the Charismatic Renewal really was the wisdom of God, but some of it really was human folly. We must learn to discern the difference and remove that which is folly, and an unnecessary stumbling block to sincere seekers. We must honestly evaluate the hard lessons that were learned in the last movement so that we do not make the same mistakes again. The Lord is going to give us another opportunity to do it right. We will again, very soon, see multitudes being converted and being empowered with the Holy Spirit. We must realize the limits of our own wisdom so that we do not automatically disregard that which we do not understand, even when we consider it to be foolishness, but let us quickly discern and repent of that which is our own human folly.[5]

Cain goes on to reiterate the basics of his prophecy:

We are nearing a Second Harvest that is about to sweep some of the most dry and barren institutional churches and empower them with the Spirit of God.[6]

This leaves little to no doubt what Cain was saying. “Multitudes” getting saved or a “Second Harvest” would be a revival. The plain meaning of “very soon, “nearing” or “about” would be anything from a few weeks to a few years.

This prophecy failed. It was not fulfilled in 1991, 1992, or 1993, or since then. This was yet another failed Cain revival prophecy. He failed in 1990, 1992, and 1996 when he prophesied a healing revival for that year. Rick Joyner also published or promoted that failure. So much for being a “high-level prophet.” Cain had a bad habit of prophesying his incorrect pet eschatology. Bob Jones did the same thing as did/does Mike Bickle.

In the above longer excerpt you see a red flag for prophecy where opinion is mixed with prophecy. It is mostly an editorial opinion. First there is opinion, then the prophecy, followed by more opinion. Since his eschatology was his opinion you could actually argue the whole thing was his opinion: he was speculating there would be another Pentecost or another revival.

He makes big sweeping generalizations with interpretation about church history. It is heavy on opinions and light on facts.

The more opinionated people are, the worse they are at prophesying. Paul Cain was extremely opinionated about revival and terrible at prophesying it. (Click the Paul Cain tag link below for more examples.)

End notes
  1. Rick Joyner, “The Post-Charismatic Era,” June 1, 1991. [May 3, 2020].
  2. [May 3, 2020].
  3. Joyner.
  4. “Somebody Moved The Goalposts: A ‘Mainstream’ Report for Spring 1993,” n.d. [May 3, 2020].
  5. Joyner.
  6. Ibid.


Martin Luther Luther, the German priest and professor of theology, predicted the end of the world would occur no later than 1600.

John Mason, an Anglican priest, predicted the Millennium would begin by 1694. Johann Heinrich Alsted, a Calvinist minister, also predicted the Millennium would begin by 1694. Johann Jacob Zimmermann, believed that Jesus would return and the world would end in 1694.

Christopher Love, a Presbyterian minister, predicted the destruction of the world by earthquake in 1805, followed by an age of everlasting peace when God would be known by all.

Johann Albrecht Bengel, an educated Lutheran clergyman and an expert in Greek, prophesied in the 1730s that Judgment Day would come in 1836. He had discerned the pope was the anti-Christ and the Freemasons represented the “false prophet” of Revelations.

John Wesley’s reputation was on the line when he prophesied 1836 as the Millennium’s beginning. He wrote that Revelation 12:14 referred to 1058 to 1836, “when Christ should come.”

Pierre d’Ailly, a French theologian around 1400 wrote that 6845 years of human history had already passed, and the end of the world would be in the 7000th year: 1555.

The Spanish-born reformer Michael Servetus, in his book The Restoration of Christianity, claimed that the Devil’s reign in this world had started in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea, and would last for 1260 years, thus ending in 1585.

Emanuel Swedenborg, a former Lutheran, claimed that the Last Judgement occurred in the spiritual world in 1757.

Charles Taze Russell said: “… the battle of the great day of God Almighty… The date of the close of that ‘battle’ is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October 1874.”

John Chilembwe, a Baptist educator and leader of a rebellion in the British protectorate of Nyasaland, predicted the Millennium would begin in 1915.

James Ussher, a 17th-century Irish archbishop, predicted Oct 23, 1997 to be 6000 years since creation, and therefore the end of the world.

Timothy Dwight IV, a 19th century president of Yale University, foresaw Christ’s Millennium starting by 2000.

Ed Dobson, pastor, predicted the end would occur in his book The End: Why Jesus Could Return by A.D. 2000.

Jonathan Edwards, the 18th-century preacher, predicted that Christ’s thousand-year reign would begin in the year 2000.

Chuck Smith, founder of Calvary Chapel, predicted the generation of 1948 would be the last generation, and that the world would end by 1981. Smith admitted he “could be wrong,” but continued to say in the same sentence that his prediction was “a deep conviction in my heart, and all my plans are predicated upon that belief.”


Michael Paget Baxter, an Anglican evangelist and author, made the last of numerous apocalyptic predictions for April 23, 1908; this prediction was published in 1894.

Wilbur Glenn Voliva, an evangelist, announced that “the world is going to go ‘puff’ and disappear” in September 1935.

William Branham, a healing evangelist, predicted the rapture would occur no later than 1977.

Pat Robertson, the televangelist, predicted in late 1976 on his 700 Club TV programme, the end of the world would come in 1982. In his 1990 book The New Millennium, he suggested April 29, 2007 as the date for the Earth’s destruction.

Lester Sumrall, an evangelist and revivalist, predicted the end in 1985 in his book I Predict 1985. He waited 15 years before his sequel: I Predict 2000.

Gordon Lindsay, an evangelist and revivalist, predicted the great tribulation would begin before 2000.

Jerry Falwell, the televangelist, foresaw God pouring out his judgment on the world on January 1, 2000.

In 2014, John Hagee, a televangelist, because of the so-called blood moon prophecy, claimed that the tetrad in 2014 and 2015 may represent the beginning of the Messianic end times. The time block was April 2014 to September 2015. Some Mormons in Utah combined the September 2015 blood moon with other signs, causing a large increase in sales of preppers survival supplies.


Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, two Christian authors, stated that the Y2K bug would trigger global economic chaos, which the Antichrist would use to rise to power. As the date approached, however, they changed their minds.

In the 1980s and/or 1990s Rick Joyner was associated with a controversial Kansas City church movement tied to Mike Bickle, Bob Jones and Paul Cain. He and others were making all kinds of prophecies some of which were related to their new eschatology and false teachings on church government. His prophecy collapsed after the church collapsed.

The Kansas City Metro Vineyard published a newsletter in the early 90s which promoted their church as a model of the newly emerging church. This church had been closely associated with the signs and wonders movement of John Wimber and officially was absorbed into the Vineyard until Wimber discovered how crooked it was. KC “Prophet” Rick Joyner prophesied:

Single presbyteries will form over cities and localities. These will be made up of pastors and leaders from all backgrounds. Their unity and harmony in purpose, as well as that of the various congregations, will become a marvel to the world. . . .

Some leaders will actually disband their organizations as they realize they are no longer relevant to what God is doing. Others will leave them behind to disband by themselves. Ultimately, all circles of ministry or influence with individual identities will dissolve into a single identity of simply being Christian for all who become part of this harvest.[1]

Update: original source

Single presbytery claim source

This was a ridiculous prophecy and unsurprisingly it failed. The disturbing thing, however, is it was believed by the Kansas City Prophets and the people who followed them. They actually tried to shut down churches in Kansas City and some closed. They would prophesy that God was telling pastors to close their churches and join their church.

One pastor, Ernie Gruen, was so outraged he took a public stand against them, preaching against their corruption. His activism led to the KCP church getting shut down.

The presbytery prophecy failed for the model church in their ‘model city,’ and it has never been accepted as sound doctrine, either. Until it gains credibility (don’t hold your breath), it is unlikely this prophecy will ever be fulfilled. It is a very tough sell. Joyner himself doesn’t spend a lot of time promoting it, so the conclusion is he now agrees he made a false prophecy.

[1] KC newsletter, p. 3, cited by Sarah Leslie, “Research Notes: Analyzing The ‘Cell Church’ Model,” Christian Conscience, 1999. [Apr. 26, 2020].

Like a lot of people you probably have long since stopped taking new prophecies for specific years seriously (if you ever took them seriously in the first place). The typical complaint is they are so general and lack so much detail they are essentially worthless.

Some years ago, people pretending to be prophetic or prophets started praying for revelation from God on what to expect for the year ahead. All kinds of ministers were doing this over a decade ago and they continue to this day. It gets them attention for their followers or page views on sites like

In January 2008, for example, evangelist Todd Bentley had his 2008 prophecy published on (Todd Bentley, “Todd Bentley: “Prophetic Directions for 2008,” Jan. 24, 2008.) He claimed a dozen revelations for the year. The fourth one is highlighted: [Apr. 30, 2020]

…Instead of shame, it’s double honor! Listen. If you have any shame it’s going to leave because of restoration; God is going to release miraculous restoration! You’re going to have double honor. Honor is favor, esteem and respect.

Later that year Bentley was in Lakeland, Florida for what became known as the Lakeland Revival or Lakeland Outpouring. It ended in disgrace suddenly after it was disclosed he had been having an affair or committed adultery.

He stepped down from his ministry and went into “restoration.” But it was not a “miraculous restoration” as prophesied. Because he fell into more sin by 2012 and had more serious problems until 2019-2020 when his second ministry ended after another huge scandal.

In 2008 the following reactions were seen online.


Well, I guess the year is not over yet…

Comment by Craig Dorsheimer | September 15, 2008

It is a double portion of shame on Todd Bentley. So, I guess the demon prophesying through him was correct on that.

As for what happened to Florida after the Lakeland outpouring imploded with sin and lies and corruption, the floods came. And came and came.

Reminds me of how the Mormons got kicked out of Independence Missouri, the historical heart of Kansas City, btw. (That is no coincidence with the Kansas City Prophets).

The normal Christians in Missouri at the time believed the massive flooding that happened after the Mormons set up shop was because the Mormons were so unholy. Skirmishes and bloodshed broke out as the people in the state wanted to drive the Mormons from Missouri –

despite Joseph Smith’s “prophesy” that Independence (Kansas City) would be their Mormon Zion where the Second Coming of Christ would occur. This flood and people trying to drive out the cultic Mormons from Missouri is why they ultimately settled in Salt Lake City Utah. But Smith always believed Kansas City was the place where the Christ (Anti Christ) would show up.

Read Anti Christ and the NARbots and again the devil is telling some truth through Joseph Smith.

Bob Jones, who backed Todd Bentley, birthed the Kansas City Prophets through his angel Emma. First name of Joseph Smith’s first wife. Joseph Smith’s “angel” that gave him the book of Mormon was named Moroni.

Same demon, IMHO.

Comment by AriseMyLove | September 15, 2008 [Apr. 24, 2020].

We live in a time when the standard for somebody being called a “prophet” is very low and may be getting lower.

Reading the Book of Amos, you can’t help noting the clear statement of the “prophet.”

“I am not a prophet, nor am I the son of a prophet; for I am a herdsman and a grower of sycamore figs. But the Lord took me from following the flock and the Lord said to me, ‘Go prophesy to My people Israel.’

Now hear the word of the Lord: you are saying, ‘You shall not prophesy against Israel nor shall you speak against the house of Isaac.’ Therefore, thus says the Lord…” (Amos 7:14-15).

Here is a man of God with the word of the Lord, speaking up, acting like a prophet, boldly declaring God’s mind, but he’s “not a prophet.”

Just because somebody has a prophecy and prophesies does not mean that person is a prophet. Was King Saul a prophet because of the one time he prophesied?

It came about, when all who knew him previously saw that he prophesied now with the prophets, that the people said to one another, “What has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?” A man there said, “Now, who is their father?” Therefore it became a proverb: “Is Saul also among the prophets?” (1 Sam. 10:11-12)

Anyone with the gift of prophecy (1 Corinthians 13:2) you could be tempted to call a prophet. Is everyone who has the gift of prophecy or everyone who prophesies a “prophet”?

The Open Bible (NASB) has comments preceding the text of the Book of Amos introducing the book where the editor calls him a prophet. Even if it is technically incorrect to call Amos a prophet after his denial, it is not such a great mistake because the Book of Amos is in the Bible along with prophets and his words were divinely inspired. There is no harm done.

The problem nowadays with calling anyone a prophet is it proliferates deception. You deceive somebody into thinking somebody else is a prophet, you deceive them into believing their false prophecies. Because many people in circles where they want prophecy who are told somebody is a prophet are more likely to believe what is prophesied. You lower the standard of acceptance and you raise the frequency of deception.

The risk of onus shifting is this: whereas the onus was on the one prophesying to convince the hearer that a prophecy is true, the onus shifts to the hearer to convince the prophecy is false. You assume “the prophet” is speaking the truth and a true word. This shift making it more likely you give a “prophet” the benefit of the doubt is unjustified and it happens significantly because of the label.


One of the most offensive things to God is idolatry. The First Commandment of The Ten Commandments is: “You shall have no other gods before Me” (Exod. 2:3). Prophets throughout the Old Testament spoke out as directed by God against idolatry and God’s judgment fell for those who didn’t repent.

Ironically “prophets” today are leading people into exactly what prophets “yesterday” were trying to lead people away from! They are inadvertently directing people to trust in them more than God, to go to them for a word from God instead of going directly to God to get a word directly from God. True dead prophets must be turning in their graves!


Interestingly in the biblical story about the old prophet at Bethel who lied to the man who prophesied and saw God perform a miracle, the person demonstrating God’s power was not called a prophet.

Now behold, there came a man of God from Judah to Bethel by the word of the Lord, while Jeroboam was standing by the altar to burn incense. He cried against the altar by the word of the Lord, and said, “O altar, altar, thus says the Lord, ‘Behold, a son shall be born to the house of David, Josiah by name; and on you he shall sacrifice the priests of the high places who burn incense on you, and human bones shall be burned on you.’”

Then he gave a sign the same day, saying, “This is the sign which the Lord has spoken, ‘Behold, the altar shall be split apart and the ashes which are on it shall be poured out.’” (1 Kings 13:1-3)

The person who didn’t have the word of the Lord and didn’t do a miracle was called: “an old prophet” (1 Kings 13:11).

Don’t call yourself a “prophet” or “prophetess.” Be humble. Use the phrase “man of God” or “woman of God,” or just the word “minister.” Or, like Amos, “herdsman” (or whatever your vocation is). “Christian” is not bad, either.

In February 2016, Rick Joyner spoke from Heritage International Headquarters in Fort Mill, South Carolina, on his TV show, “Prophetic Perspectives on Current Events with Rick Joyner.”

Joyner said Bob Jones was “a prophetic friend of ours who lived here for over 20 years.” Jones had already passed away, so he shared his prophecy as best he remembered it:

When our Carolina Panthers win the Super Bowl . . . this is a time when . . . major revival awakening moves of God are going to break out in America.

“When they went to the Super Bowl once over ten years ago,” said Joyner, “we thought: This is it where . . . revival is [going to] break out in America.”

“Well, they didn’t win.”

On February 1, 2004, the Carolina Panthers, despite a great regular season, and scoring 19 points in the 4th quarter in the 38th Super Bowl, lost to the New England Patriots, 32–29.

“Listen,” said Joyner, “I’m doing this program before the [50th] Super Bowl. They haven’t won it yet, but if they do, to me it is a very definite marker of something remarkable breaking out.

“Now Bob saw it breaking out in Charlotte,” he explained, “but it’s about to happen here. . . we said, ‘Okay, now, if the Panthers win this year, we know it’s all hands on deck, and we are going to see the outbreak of, I believe, the third Great Awakening in America.’

“I think we’re going to see not just one but many revivals. . . . I think you’re going to see something major breaking out in Kansas City and there’s also a major outbreak on the west coast that is coming . . . .

“I mean all these supporting tents are lining up and I think something spectacular is going to happen there. You’re going to see an outbreak in Charlotte. You’re going to see an outbreak in Kansas City and I believe [in] many other places if the Panthers win the Superbowl. . . . Start getting prepared for revival.”1

Five days later, on February 7, 2016, at Super Bowl 50, the Denver Broncos defeated the Carolina Panthers, 24–10.

Joyner was heavily criticized on YouTube. Viewers believed he had prophesied the Panthers were going to win and they saw it as an epic fail. They missed the little two-letter word “if,” but it is still unclear why Joyner didn’t wait until after the game to see if the Panthers won.

End notes
  1. Rick Joyner on Revival and Panthers’ Super Bowl Win,” MorningStar Ministries, YouTube, Feb. 2, 2016. [Apr. 29, 2020].

On September 7, 1992, David Wilkerson prophesied:

“I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York city. I am convinced race riots will soon explode! New York City is right now a powder keg-ready to blow!… federal and State Welfare cutbacks will be the spark that ignites the fuse.

Next year, New York City could have over 100,000 angry men on the streets, enraged because they have been cut off from benefits…. Federal troops will have to move in to restore order. New York City will have tanks running down its avenues…. Churches will be closed for a season because it will be too dangerous to travel about.

Fires will rage everywhere.”

It did not happen. This was a false prophecy. After it failed, he claimed the prophecy was true except for the date. He said he had added the date. The prophecy would happen later.

“This is a common expedient for those who assume themselves to be prophets,” said Tom Riggle, “moving the goal-posts, hoping that others will forget by then.”[1]

It still had not happened by the time Wilkerson passed away in 2011. It is extremely difficult to imagine it will ever happen. It is just so extreme.


Wilkerson did not have a long track record of many fulfilled prophecies before or after this. This despite people calling him a prophet. He may have preached a thousand good sermons but it wouldn’t make him one bit better at delivering one true prophecy. It is a completely different kettle of fish.


Note that Wilkerson said he had had “recurring visions.” It is easily assumed that recurring visions are incontrovertible evidence of authentic prophecy. (People have been assuming one of Paul Cain’s popular but unfulfilled prophecies is still valid because he says he had recurring visions.) The frequency probably convinced first Wilkerson and then the people who heard his prophetic word it was legitimate. The conclusion is frequency can be easily misinterpreted and is dangerous because of how easily it can lead to deception.


He would have done better to submit his opinion of the future to a group of leaders for their input before going public. No doubt a lot of people who believed his prophecy and stayed in New York lived in fear for a long time; whereas others probably left the city. Any time a potential prophecy can affect a lot of people in a big way it should get outside counsel before distribution as long as that is possible. No public record was found of Wilkerson saying he did this; likewise no endorsements by other pastors, prophets, or leaders who said they believed it or received a similar impression independently, before or after he did.

End Notes

[1] Tom Riggle, “David Wilkerson False Prophecies & Unscriptural Teaching,” July 30, 2007. [Dec. 20, 2008].

Prophecy: Stadiums full of people in a revival

Prophet: Paul Cain

The attribution for who made this prophecy is undisputed as is its basic idea. Paul Cain said he had recurring visions of the stadiums. One rumor is he saw the vision “over one hundred times.” This number may have been estimated or inflated. His own website summarized the visions as “ongoing, recurring.”

Cain’s own detailed account was:


In February 1989, at the Anaheim Vineyard during a conference, I prophesied a time when athletic stadiums and arenas would be filled with God’s people preaching the gospel and healing the sick in extraordinary fashion.

In my vision I saw ambulances bringing in the worst medical cases, the local hospitals being emptied to deliver their patients to these events, and the dead (dead people!) being raised by an army of nameless and faceless Christians releasing a wave of miraculous healings and conversions.

GodTV, in its eulogy after he passed away in 2019, said: “Paul lived to see the start of the mass stadium revivals he prophesied.” This is a very liberal interpretation of history. They said it happened at Azusa Now when 60,000 people gathered on April 9, 2016 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. But these were Christians. How many were healed? Who was raised from the dead? Were there ambulances?

It is a very optimistic prophecy. It is basically a best-case scenario prophecy. This type is always suspect. Cain made his already-fantastic prophecy even more fantastic:

This vision encompassed multiple venues over an extended period and spoke of God’s glory being released in an unprecedented manner and on a scale that had not been witnessed before….

In my vision, the international media were reporting the amazing events as they took place. This was the news of the day: every channel, every station, and every nation.

This was not an isolated Christian event, the kind that is well known and publicized in the Christian community, yet even the immediate neighbors of the event have no clue what is happening inside; rather, this was a series of events that would affect the world and the communities around the stadiums and arenas.

A History of Revival Prophecies

It must be noted that Paul Cain gave another revival prophecy around the same time he made the 1989 stadiums prophecy. In either 1989 and/or 1990 he prophesied revival was about to start in England. It never happened, much to John Wimber’s regret.

About thirty years later it still had not happened. Not too long before he died, Cain returned to the UK, and people thought it might happen then, including Cain. It did not.

Was the stadiums revival word true while the UK revival one was false? Or were they both false?

A closer look at Cain’s revival prophecy record shows he also prophesied a healing revival for 1996. It also never happened.


It seems like a lot of people believe the Cain stadiums prophecy because they want to believe it. It would be a dream come true. There is a bias to trust it by those who want to see it happen. Peter Vandever, the blogger at Azusa Report who is steeped in Kansas City dreams, confidently declares Stadium Christianity is my Eschatology.


The disclaimer here as always is we don’t know if Cain had the vision as he claimed and/or if he had it several times. He has been accused of lying by leaders so it’s possible. Assuming for the sake of discussion his claimed spiritual experiences did happen, the essential component of the prophecy in terms of credibility is they happened more than once.

To some people seeing a vision once is enough to believe it. To others it needs to be more than once to be credible. But the idea that it happened many times or even 100 times should push it past the realm of any doubt whatsoever.

The problem with this belief is that re-occurrence of any spiritual experience, whether it is a vision or anything else, in and of itself is not infallible proof something is from God according to the Bible.

One person could have one vision once and it be from God. Another person could have one vision 1,000 times and it not be from God. Frequency is just not the standard. You could fairly argue that having the same vision more than once makes it more likely it is from God than having it only once, but it’s not foolproof.


The stadiums prophecy is fairly innocuous. It makes little difference to most people whether they believe it or not. It is unlikely to affect any decision-making. It is mostly a cheer-leading prophecy to wind up a crowd and get people excited.


It is a very strong word in some ways because it forecasts extreme power, but at the same time it is also very weak, because it says nothing about personal cost or special method. It is not clear if it is just going to happen as a sovereign move of God, or God’s people actually need to do something special to get something special. If Cain really believed it was from God why didn’t he find out and tell us?


Prophecy: A billion people will become Christians

Prophet: Bob Jones

Status: Unfulfilled

This prophecy was made by a person who had a long history of making the most fantastic and oversized prophecies you could imagine (and he could imagine). It is inline with or an extension of his megalomaniac eschatology of Christian superheroes who will take control of the world with their super powers. It is “comic book Christianity” that started either when Bob Jones started reading comics or when he heard about and fell in love with Latter Rain (LR) theories.

It is part of a raft of LR ideas and really the easily predicted end result. The basic dream is that Christians of the future will have special spiritual powers and be able to perform special miracles. With all this extra power they will be able to get all these extra people persuaded to become believers in Jesus Christ. Because their power will be so great, a billion conversions is within the realm of possibility. It is logical but only if the underlying assumption is correct.


The base assumption is an unorthodox and controversial interpretation of Scripture by a boy who worked in a mail room during a revival in Canada and felt he was anointed. He wrote a book. The rest is history (or in this case the future). It is even crazier in some ways than the Mormon history of an adult who claimed he angelic experience. It is so cringe-worthy when you deep dive into its history.

So, anyway, of course people wanted to believe they would become extremely powerful, so they took the idea and ran with it. But when they never got the power they dreamed, the movement lost its appeal; it pretty much died down and everybody went home. It stayed in the background until enough people who were good at hype revived it. Bob Jones was one of the Latter Rain hype revivalists who revived it in the 1980s.

In his eschatology or imagination — it is usually impossible to tell which it is — future Christians will become perfect (sinless) and virtually as powerful as Jesus. This came from the guy who was caught in sin and banned from ministry.

New breed

The superhero element of Jones’ view of the future was encapsulated in his associated New Breed prophecy. The new superheroes he called the “New Breed.” He said Todd Bentley was the first of a new breed. He said this publicly in Lakeland, Florida in 2008 just before Bentley’s ministry collapsed in spectacular fashion. If the billion souls are supposed to get saved by the New Breed, don’t hold your breath.


The whole idea that a billion people (out of world population of over 7.5 billion) will become Christians is a total pipe dream!

“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matt. 7:13-14).


This word has value for cheerleaders. It is good for rallying the troops. What could be more positive and exciting for those who want to see souls saved than to hear a billion will? But it is hype.


Various leaders including Che Ahn use it to get people excited. It has also been repeated on the Charisma website in 2016 (Che Ahn), 2019 (Patricia Bootsma) and 2020 (Holly Watson) with no critical consideration on whether it was invalidated.

Blind eye

You have to be more than your average eternal optimist to believe this prophecy. You also have to deliberately ignore every false prophecy Bob Jones ever made.


There is no wisdom with the word to say how anybody could get more power to become more effective at evangelism. This makes it very weak if not powerless.

The Bottom line

Extremely unlikely to happen.

When a prophecy sounds too good to be true it probably is.

Andrew Strom, author of a few books and webmaster of, used to live in Kansas City, a hub of a “prophetic movement.” He wrote the following after Pat Bickle passed away:

On a similarly tragic note [as the passing of Jill Austin], for those familiar with the “Kansas City prophets” movement, there is an important aspect of it that came to a similar sad ending not long ago.

Mike Bickle – who heads up that movement (and also IHOP) – had a paralyzed brother named Pat Bickle – and one of the major prophecies over the entire movement was that he would one day be dramatically healed, and this would spark off the big revival that everyone has been waiting for. This prophecy was at the very center of the whole Kansas City movement.

But tragically, in May 2007, Pat Bickle passed away – after years of battling his disability. It really is a tragedy, because I understand that Pat was a strong advocate of real Revival and “clean heart” holiness preaching. (He had distanced himself from the movement over the lack of this).

Again, it is distasteful and awful to have to speak of such things, but don’t these tragedies ever make Mike Bickle stop and wonder whether his entire movement is off on the wrong track and mired in deception? Doesn’t it ever give him pause?[1]

The claim that this prophecy is fake, made up and posted online only to discredit the Kansas City Prophets and the IHOP movement would be false. It was actually recorded by a reliable source in a book:

In August 1984 Bob Jones came up to Mike [Bickle].

‘Oh, by the way, I have a prediction for you. A young man is going to have a vision very soon. It will lift you high off the ground. You will hold on to him and not let go!’

What young man could be going to have a vision that could cause Mike to leap up like that, he wondered. He went home rejoicing.

Once in the house the phone rang. It was Agustine [Acala].

‘Mike, God is going to visit your brother Pat [Bickle] tonight! He will show him that he will heal him!’

The Lord did indeed visit Pat during the night. It was at 4.03 a.m. on the Friday. Pat was wide awake when in what seemed like a trance (cf. Acts 10: 10) the Lord appeared and he was terrified.

‘I have come. For eleven years I have not dealt with you,’ said the Lord.

It seemed slightly enigmatic. Pat came out of his trance and lay on his bed still in great fear. He had clearly not been healed.

That morning he called Mike and asked him what it meant. Whilst Pat was still on the line, Agustine (who only knew directly from the Lord what had happened to Pat that morning) called Mike on another line…

Unable to reach him, Agustine left a message: ‘Regarding Pat’s visitation last night, look at Acts 3 where you will see that the key miracle that opened up the city of Jerusalem was the healing of a cripple, and then at Acts 14 where another cripple was healed and this second miracle opened the door for the gospel to enter at Lystra.

‘The Lord has called Pat and told him that he is going to heal him and this will be the key for the gospel to the whole of Kansas City.’

Mike was thinking fast. God had made Pat to be a sign to this city. Most people would have forgotten the story of his accident and subsequent testimony by then, but it seemed they would soon have cause to remember it.[2]

The account is uncontested. David Pytches personally visited Kansas City and wrote a sympathetic book — so sympathetic it could be considered promotional material. Much of what he wrote shows he did not question the stories he was told and actually believed Pat Bickle would get healed.

Note the involvement of Bob Jones which helped set up or prime Mike Bickle for deception from Agustine Acala. Also note the fact Bickle had zero spiritual discernment that Jones was setting him up and Acala was giving him a false prophecy.

One of the most interesting aspects of the story is it looks as if three demons conspired to affect three people at around the same time (or one demon may have targeted all three): Jones, Bickle and Acala. It also appears as if both Jones and Acala were operating by a divination spirit (knowledge provided by demons). God would not have given Jones knowledge that would be used to deceive Bickle the way it was used. It is extremely difficult to believe Jones got the knowledge from his own imagination. The only other rational explanation is the knowledge came from an evil spirit.


The fact the prophecy failed raises questions about whether there will ever be a revival in Kansas City, or if it will ever come through IHOP, or anything associated with Bickle. None of their best leaders and prophets from Paul Cain to Bob Jones to Agustine Acala to Mike Bickle himself, despite many years of trying — teaching, preaching, fasting, praying, etc. — produced a revival. They are not spiritual enough. They are not powerful enough. Anyone connected to them because they are expecting revival because they prophesied revival needs to get their prophecy examined.

There is another account of the Pat Bickle story posted online from a person who claims she knew him. It is very similar to what Pytches and Strom wrote. It includes the comment that IHOP scrubbed the story from their prophetic history. Acala and Jones both passed away before being asked to justify or apologize for their false prophecies.

Pat Bickle

To be clear, Pat Bickle never prophesied his healing would be a sign of revival to follow. He never said or did anything deceptive or misleading. He was a victim of the deceiving or deceived people around him. By all accounts Pat was a godly man who believed until the day he died he would be healed and a revival would follow.

Augustine Alcala

Mike Bickle made a funny comment about his trusted prophet:

In October 1982, while I was pastoring in St. Louis, Augustine Alcala, a man with a proven prophetic ministry, gave me four words related to starting a new young adult church in Kansas City.[3]

What exactly was “proven” about Alcala before 1982? What did Bickle know about proving prophecy before 1982?

End Notes
  1. Andrew Strom, “Jill Austin Dies — and Also Pat Bickle,” (reposted) [Apr. 28, 2020].
  2. David Pytches, Some Said It Thundered: A Personal Encounter with The Kansas City Prophets, 1990, pp. 102-103.
  3. Mike Bickle, “Key Events in 1983 and 1999.” [May 1, 2020].



The heavens now are declaring His timing… He’s beginning to raise up the eternal church, built on the foundation government, and He’s beginning to mature that.

And within another 4-5½ years, somewhere in there… You’re going to begin to see anointed men of God begin to move with the Holy Spirit in power… You will see the glorious church begin to come in and you will begin to birth it. It will take probably another 15 to 20 years to get some of you into some level of maturity…

First, He will bring the five… there is a ministry after the fivefold, called the ministry of perfection: the Melchizedek priesthood. You that are children will be moving into the ministries of perfection… coming into that divine nature of Jesus Christ—not having to come out of the wilderness, but being birthed natural into the Spirit.

All their days movin’ with the Spirit… You’re in the warfare. Start to take the promised land. And then you raise up the generation to possess it. Well, the children that are coming forth are to possess the promises of God. It is the last-day generation.”

—Bob Jones, 1988

“Visions & Revelations,” Mike Bickle with Bob Jones, Fall 1988, KCMO, pp. 49-50.

Quoted by Ernie Gruen, Documentation of the Aberrant Practices and Teachings of Kansas City Fellowship, 1990.


The prophecy’s authenticity as far as whether Bob Jones actually said it is uncontested. It may have been prophesied at Mike Bickle’s church in Kansas City. Jones was known as one of the Kansas City Prophets and was often interviewed by Bickle.

The transcription was published by Ernie Gruen, senior pastor of a church near Kansas City, in his Aberration report which was distributed across America in early 1990. His source was a cassette recording; this was the standard for teaching distribution at the time; tapes were offered for sale to the public through a tape catalog.


Jones’ prophecy has time parameters. It was dated 1988 (Gruen’s report used the F88 tag). It may have been recorded earlier than 1988 but first distributed in 1988. But it seems fair to say it was recorded no later than 1988. When you add the 4 to 5.5 years to 1988, it’s 1992 to mid-1993.


There was nothing special or significant that happened between 1988 and 1993 which could indicate let alone prove the fulfillment of “You’re going to begin to see anointed men of God begin to move with the Holy Spirit in power” either in terms of existing ministries suddenly demonstrating the power of the Holy Spirit — or new ministries starting to show it — and certainly not by Jones.

Jones said: “It will take probably another 15 to 20 years to get some of you into some level of maturity.” This was not a prophecy; it was an opinion. The word “probably” obviously is opinion. Any “prophecy” with the word “probably” is immediately suspect; it undermines the entire prophecy. It makes the audience wonder if not just the sentence with “probably” but the entire prophecy is speculation.

Even if you discount the word “probably” as an inadvertent mistake, a slip of the tongue, and then add 15 to 20 years from 1988, you get a prophecy saying powerful men will be demonstrating the Holy Spirit by 2003 to 2008. But, again, there was nothing significant during this time frame, either, to prove or validate the prophecy — including by Jones himself.

The most significant part of the prophecy is the final sentence: “It is the last-day generation.”  This shows Bob Jones believed the generation that would be demonstrating God’s power starting between 2003 and 2008 (or between 1992 and 1993) would be the last generation. We have been in the “last days” since the Day of Pentecost because the Joel 2 last days prophecy was fulfilled on that day according to Peter’s sermon. Jones must have been talking about literally the last generation.

That is a really hard sell! What respected Christian leaders if any today believe the end is near?!

The Church as a whole, and with very few exceptions, operates at very low levels of spiritual power. This is true of any kind of spiritual power you can imagine from prophecy to miracles, signs, wonders, or any gifts of the Holy Spirit. There is really no evidence of a rising tide of spiritual power as if an entire generation is more mature or more spiritual than any previous generation.

Besides lack of accuracy, lack of power is another reason why Bob Jones prophecies have been so difficult to believe. He did not have a healing ministry. He did not demonstrate what he prophesied. “If we are supposed to grow in power,” somebody should have asked him, “why aren’t you!?”


False prophecy


The entire prophecy is not clean and clear. It seems like rambling with a few ideas cobbled together with some opinions on eschatology thrown in as if he made it up as he went along. Its value would have been considered very limited because it provided no guidance on how to get the power it promised. It completely lacked wisdom and responsibility. It had no associated miracles or signs for confirmation.

“I will change the understanding and expression of Christianity in one generation.” —Mike Bickle, 1982


The source of this prophecy is not disputed. It has been spoken publicly more than once, recorded in writing and currently appears on the website of the organization its author founded and leads. The precision of its content and age is also uncontested for the same reasons. The word is verbatim:

Screen capture, IHOP KC[1]


In the fall of 1982 Bickle (1955-) was 28 years old.


Bickle has detailed very little experience or undeniable accuracy at hearing God prior to 1982. He has not provided many examples of fulfilled prophecies he made before ’82. He was not known as a prophet before making this prophecy. Neither he nor his friends publicize a long list of fulfilled prophecies he made since then.


The prophecy is very short. Some of its content is easy to understand and some of it isn’t. The two clearest words and phrases are “Christianity” and “generation.”


Christianity means: “a religion based on belief in God and the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, and on the Bible.”


Generation means: “a period of about 25 to 30 years, in which most human babies become adults and have their own children.”

The exact length of a “generation” could be considered as short as 20 years or as long as 30 years. Donn Devine, an expert at, says:

As a matter of common knowledge, we know that a generation averages about 25 years—from the birth of a parent to the birth of a child—although it varies case by case. We also generally accept that the length of a generation was closer to 20 years in earlier times when humans mated younger and life expectancies were shorter.2

The 20- to 30-year duration range requires Bickle’s prophecy to be fulfilled before 2002 (1982+20=2002) or 2012 (1982+30=2012).

Understanding and Expression

The meaning of the other words—”understanding” and “expression”—are generally understood but in this context they are not. They are so vague it could be argued that it would be difficult to know what the “prophecy” means and when it is fulfilled.


The obvious thing to do if you get an impression from God that doesn’t make sense or isn’t easy to understand is to ask God for an explanation so the “word” isn’t ignored after being rendered meaningless and useless. We are not aware that Bickle did this.

The second option that is almost as obvious is to ask an expert at hearing God what the prophecy or parts of it mean, especially when you are 28 or younger and have no experience being led by God or hearing His voice. We are not aware that Bickle did this, either.

Bickle’s problem was basic. In the 1970s and 1980s he did not have the volume or quality of books or teaching on hearing God that is available today. He could not have attended a reputable school of prophets. He also did not have access to reliable prophets. He was not training or working under a prophet like Elisha with Elijah.

Whom could he consult? Back then he was nobody. He knew nobody; nobody knew him. He could not just pick up a phone and call an expert. He was at the mercy of people he had met, such as Augustine Alcala and Bob Jones, two men who seemed to him to be legitimate until they became widely discredited false prophets.

So there you had a young guy with no education, no training, no self-education, no expertise and no expert consultants for prophetic revelation—getting a strange, ambiguous word he thinks is God—and we are supposed to believe it immediately without reservation and any critical consideration.


In the fall of 1982, Mike took a trip around the world to observe the plight of the poor. While spending the night in prayer in a hotel room in Cairo, Egypt, the Lord encountered Mike that September. He heard the audible voice of the Lord say, “I will change the understanding and expression of Christianity in one generation.”3

The statement “While spending a night in prayer” could be seen as corroborative of an accurate prophecy, but it is not considered confirmative. Anyone could spend time in prayer and not hear God. It is certainly not a biblical standard so it is not authoritative.

The statement “He heard the audible voice of the Lord” has not been verified. It is unverifiable. It sounds spiritual and authoritative but isn’t. People who hear voices are neither considered reliable nor authoritative.

There is nothing special about the location (hotel room, Cairo, Egypt) to make anybody say “It must have been God.”


The content of the prophecy had no relevance to what Bickle was doing at the time or where he was.


One observer commented: Why would you want to change the understanding of Christianity when it is already correctly understood by the preaching of the Gospel? We are no longer living in the days of Martin Luther! Mike Bickle’s prophecy would have been more relevant in 1500 AD.


There is already biblical understanding and expression of Christianity in many parts of the world. This was true in 1982 and it is true today. Clearly his word cannot be relevant for these places unless he was prophesying the demise of Christianity. But that’s not the impression most people would get of his prediction. It lacks a considerable amount of definition which undermines any claims of its value. It doesn’t say where in the world it is for. It doesn’t say what this new “understanding” will be; nor does it say what the new “expression” will look like.


The prophecy contains no new practical wisdom. It is a statement with no steps for how in the world the change will happen.


Unlike great biblical prophecies, Bickle’s had no conditions.


Notwithstanding the vagueness of the prophecy, nobody has been saying the understanding and expression of Christianity changed after 1982 before 2002, or before 2012, or since 2012. No Christian leader has claimed this including Mike Bickle. There is no indication the prophecy is partly fulfilled, or about to be fulfilled, or will be fulfilled in the foreseeable future.


It has not been fulfilled.


The clock ran out in 2012.


False prophecy


Bickle’s ability to discern the voice of God was unproven in 1982. He was young and inexperienced. It is not unusual for young people to think they heard God when they didn’t. The very odd thing is as recently as 2019 his organization was still talking about his 37-year-old prophecy (1982-2019) as if it were a legitimate word from God despite the fact it had failed in 2012 and cannot be fulfilled in the future.

  1. Adam Wittenberg, “Marking IHOPKC’s Prophetic History,” May 21, 2019. [Apr. 28, 2020].
  2. Donn Devine, “How Long Is a Generation?”, n.d. [May 1, 2020].
  3. Wittenberg.

Most of what I was going to write about this prophecy has already been stated in a video.

The main facts surrounding this prophecy are essentially uncontested. Branham did die suddenly in the specified time frame. He is on record for false teaching.

Hagin repeated his recollection of his prophecy in print and on a few occasions during public speaking. He can be considered an honest source; he was a veteran minister not known for lying or deception.

Mrs. Freda Lindsay, late wife of the late Gordon Lindsay, can also be considered an honest person. There is no obvious reason to doubt her story. Her husband had known Branham since the 1940s and had in fact started a magazine, The Voice of Healing, to promote his healing ministry, and written his biography, William Branham: A Man Sent From God, a key book used in the promotion of his ministry.

Lindsay would very likely have been aware of any complaints against and any new false teaching introduced by Branham in the 1960s. He also, because of their friendship, would have had access to Branham to bring warning or correction if needed.

There is not much indication Hagin and Branham had a friendship. If they had, you would have expected Hagin to say he personally confronted Branham and told him he would die. Hagin, however, was ironically featured by Lindsay in one issue of The Voice of Healing and some of his ministry was promoted in the magazine. But it seems more likely they just happened to have independent healing ministries at the same time during the healing revival, and did not advertise campaigns working together. (Most evangelists back then had independent campaigns.)



David Wilkerson (1931-2011) appeared to be one of the most serious and sincere ministers of his generation. He was an evangelist and a pastor, most notably at Times Square Church in New York City. He was also considered a prophet. He preached against sin often and prophesied about the future occasionally. None of his prophecies were what you can easily find today, soft and comforting. They were typically about judgment for sin.

You might have been inclined to believe his prophecies because he seemed so committed to God, so serious about God, and so focused on His will on the earth. But he did make some false prophecies; some of them were very extreme.

The Vision Prophecies

His book The Vision (1973) was full of prophecies but they were false.

In 2000, Amazon reviewer Daniel J. Elmore wrote: “This book is so full of mis-predictions and obvious extrapolations that it should forever have ruined Wilkerson’s status as a man to be listened to. . . . he did say was that the US would suffer an enormous earthquake outside of the usual quake areas that would be so severe that earthquakes would become the leading cause of fear in the general population, that the economy would become so unstable that no one would ever feel confident in it again, and that rural property would so sky-rocket in price that only the syndicates would be able to afford it. . . did ANY of that happen?” Daniel J. Elmore, “Trust me, it’s kooky,” Mar. 24, 2000.

Another commented: “I read the English version back in the 70s and so respected & trusted Rev. Wilkerson that I was afraid to invest for years because I thought an economic collapse was surely coming at any time. My challenge to David Wilkerson is to come clean with this stuff and either update it or admit that he missed it.” Anonymous, “Why is this book still in print?” Apr. 7, 2000.

The End of Gospel TV Prophecy

Prophecies are not always made before or after a sermon, or even prefaced as prophecies. Sometimes they get mixed in with the message. In December of 1994 at a church he visited Wilkerson prophesied: “Right now I sense in my spirit that in less than five years there will be no more so-called gospel television networks. They will all fall into bankruptcy and absolute ruin.”

This never happened. Over 20 years later it still had not been fulfilled and there was no sign it would be fulfilled in the foreseeable future. Wilkerson was 63 at the time in ’94. He had been a minister since 1952 (42 years). It is more evidence that age and experience does not guarantee prophetic accuracy.

Economic Holocaust Prophecy

In later years he did not prophesy very much, but still failed. The following is a written exchange between Wilkerson and a person who wrote to him.

“Your last book warned of a coming depression,” said a reader. “You have been saying for a long time that the stock market is going to blow and America would be chastened by an economic holocaust. I believed you, even though you say you are not a prophet. But there seems to be no sign of a crash. Will you apologize if it doesn’t happen reasonably soon?”

“I do not understand God’s mercy to America,” answered Wilkerson. “It could only be his extended mercy that has caused God to not yet chasten our nation. I do not want it to happen. We have a ministry to many needy people, and an economic collapse would affect all we do.

“In prayer, I have told the Lord I am ready at any time to confess I am wrong – that I must have spoken from my own fears or that I have spoken unadvisedly. Recently, when the market reached record highs, I wondered if those calling me a false prophet were right. But I know how diligently I seek God. I know what it’s like to weep and groan before the Lord as the Holy Spirit shows me what is coming.

“No matter what others think, I cannot shake off the urgency of the Holy Spirit to warn God’s people. Every time I am shut in with God, fasting and praying, I hear the trumpet blowing. I hear God’s still, small voice saying, “It is coming. It will happen suddenly. Forget the criticism – warn the people.”

“I believe what I have been warning about – more than ever! The speculative boom is almost over. The balloon is about to burst. No matter how high the market goes, it is going to collapse. I don’t know when but I do know it is certain. God will not delay much longer. The next American president is going to preside over a deeply troubled economy.”

David Wilkerson, “Cover Letter,” May 22, 2000.

See also: “What You Need to Know about David Wilkerson’s ‘Urgent Message, Christianity Today, Mar. 16, 2009.

The common denominator of David Wilkerson prophecies was calamity or judgment for sin. His motivation was rarely doubted but his prophetic skills never matched his preaching power. He could preach strong sermons against sin but when he prophesied the consequences of sin his prophecies typically failed.
His prophecies were more consequential than many because some Christians actually believed them and made decisions based on them; for example, the person cited above who did not invest in the stock market.
Despite the risks it is assumed he typically did not submit potential prophecies to reputable leaders or anyone else for review or prayer before going public. There is also no easily found public record of Wilkerson apologizing for his false prophecies or offering restitution to the people who lost money because of them.